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		<title>Connecting iBook in Target Disk Mode to XP via Firewire</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Mar 2005 13:00:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Julian</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dec 2008: The following post from 2005 is out of date; I no longer have the iBook, the new MacBooks don&#8217;t have Firewire (why?!) and I run Vista under Fusion. However, I still get the occasional link from the AppleInsider forums, so it remains here for posterity. I hope it helps you.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="updated">Dec 2008: The following post from 2005 is out of date; I no longer have the iBook, the new MacBooks don&#8217;t have Firewire (why?!) and I run Vista under Fusion. However, I still get the occasional link from the <a href="http://forums.appleinsider.com/">AppleInsider forums</a>, so it remains here for posterity. I hope it helps you.</p>
<p><a href="#solution"><em><strong>Jump straight to the solution&#8230;</strong></em></a></p>
<p>My work XP machine (running MacDrive) is have problems connecting to my iBook drive in Target Disk Mode (see <a href="/wordpress/2005/01/ibook-logic-board-problem/">this previous post</a> why I want to do this). Here&#8217;s the geeky history:</p>
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<li>Boot up iBook in Target Disk Mode, plug it in</li>
<li>MacDrive eval has run out, but I can see the iBook as a drive in My Computer, although cannot access it due to eval limitations.</li>
<li>Thinking it&#8217;s fixed, I purchase MacDrive 6.0.5. Install and reboot.</li>
<li>MacDrive no longer sees the iBook, now there&#8217;s a yellow ! next to the disk in the device manager, that says &#8220;Unknown vendor and model ieee 1394 sbp2 device&#8221;. Additionally there&#8217;s a ! under SBP2 IEEE 1394 devices.</li>
<li>Looking at a number of mac forums, I &#8216;repair&#8217; the iBook drive, using DiskUtility, DiskWarrior and fsck.</li>
<li>However, MacDrive still does not &#8217;see&#8217; the drive, and the yellow exclamation points remain.</li>
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<p>Mediafour&#8217;s response is <em>&#8220;This indicates a driver or communications problem in Windows&#8230;&#8221;</em>, and then essentially to remove and reinstall the 1394 drivers. After this didn&#8217;t work, they said <em>&#8220;Please see the following <a href="http://forums.mediafour.com/">FAQ</a> for suggestions on resolving Firewire interface problems&#8221;</em>. <span class="updated">(Original FAQ link is dead.)</span></p>
<p>Still no joy. However, I can now see the drive about 50% of the time using this process:</p>
<ol>
<li>Connect firewire cable to PC</li>
<li>PC detects device, but shows exclamation mark next to drive</li>
<li>Uninstall IEEE host controller</li>
<li>Do not restart (it doesn&#8217;t seem to make any difference)</li>
<li>Control Panel -&gt; Add Hardware</li>
<li>50% of time, device is detected but exclamation point returns, other 50%, device is detected immediately, or the Add Hardware wizard takes some time (during which the device is shown as &#8220;Disk Drive&#8221;)</li>
<li>Even if the device is working, a tooltip in the system tray shows (during add hardware) &#8220;a problem occurred during installation &#8230;&#8221;</li>
<li>If the device works, then &#8217;safely remove hardware&#8217;, and remove cable</li>
<li>repeat ad infinitum</li>
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<p>So, still no joy. I spend hours hunting for a solution; perhaps it&#8217;s an IRQ clash with the videocard? I really don&#8217;t want to be messing with a Windows reinstall, as this is my work PC. Nothing in the BIOS to change. Maybe it&#8217;s PCI latency? I download Powerstrip, and adjust the latency of the firewire controller (see <a href="http://www.geocities.com/phileosophos/tech/pcilatency.html">this article</a>). Still no solution.</p>
<p>Thinking it might be a Windows XP SP2 issue, I trawl the Microsoft support site, and try the following:</p>
<ol>
<li>Uninstall MacDrive</li>
<li>Install hotfix for <a href="http://support.microsoft.com/kb/885222">&#8220;885222: Performance of 1394 devices may decrease after you install Windows XP Service Pack 2&#8243;</a>. No joy.</li>
<li>Install hotfix for <a href="http://support.microsoft.com/kb/811077">&#8220;811077: An IEEE 1394 Hard Disk May Not Be Recognized After You Restart the Computer&#8221;</a>. No joy.</li>
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<p><a name="solution"></a><strong>The Solution?</strong><br />
Getting desparate now, I take a look in the registry. I find a solution that works all the time. But it&#8217;s not nice: After &#8217;safely removing&#8217; the drive, I delete all the entries within HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Enum\1394. Reinserting the firewire cable, the PC detects the drive. This is great, as at least I have a solution.</p>
<p>But I don&#8217;t like loose ends, so I carry on the hunt for a proper solution:<br />
Good page with lots of info: <a href="http://www.bustrace.com/products/delayedwrite.htm">http://www.bustrace.com/products/delayedwrite.htm</a> &#8230; <br />
Think <a href="http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;329256">this</a> might be the problem, until I read the problem was fixed in SP2&#8230;</p>
<p>I resort to calling the Microsoft SP2 hotline, to get hold of hotfixes <a href="http://support.microsoft.com/kb/885464">885464</a> and <a href="http://support.microsoft.com/kb/887170">887170</a>. You can only get them by calling for some reason.</p>
<p>Neither of these hotfixes work. I install MacDrive again, so I can copy some data back.</p>
<p>I turn my attention to getting a new external firewire drive for backups, and wait for a return call from Microsoft&#8230;</p>
<p class="updated">Some time later&#8230;</p>
<p>So I still have this issue with firewire; If I&#8217;ve connect my iBook (by Target Disk Mode) to my work XP machine, &#8217;something&#8217; doesn&#8217;t seem remove it correctly from the system. On the hunt for more answers, I stumble upon this <a href="http://www.tomshardware.com/howto/20040823/index.html">article about XP SP2 and firewire</a>. <span class="updated">(Link dead.)</span></p>
<p>So I take a look at the unibrain driver page, and install the <a href="http://www.unibrain.com/downloads/">ubCore</a> drivers. <span class="updated">(Original link dead.)</span> Other articles I&#8217;ve read have said that they&#8217;re supposed to be pretty good, so my hopes are high.</p>
<p>But what on earth is happening now? The PC no longer detects the iBook&#8217;s drive AT ALL, but does detect its CD drive. I can even right-click eject it. Interestingly, I have no problems disconnecting and reconnecting this &#8216;CD drive&#8217; to the PC. But still no hard drive. Because of this, I switch back to the Windows drivers.</p>
<p>To be complete, I test a new external drive, Tony&#8217;s iPod and his brand spanking new PowerBook:</p>
<p><em>The Powerbook exhibits exactly the same behaviour as my iBook, but the iPod and the external drive behave perfectly.</em></p>
<p>So it seems to me to be some weird combo of the IEEE 1394 drivers and something with Target Disk Mode. Who&#8217;s fault will it be?</p>
<p class="updated">A few days later, I posted:</p>
<p><strong> Continuation of the iBook/XP Firewire saga</strong></p>
<p>Well this is interesting. I&#8217;ve been on the phone to both Microsoft AND Apple tech support at the same time, about this whole &#8220;connecting iBook in Target Disk Mode to PC&#8221; scenario.</p>
<p>MS were saying that this is the first occurrence of such a situation. I find that hard to believe, though perhaps it&#8217;s due to a weird combination of hardware and software.</p>
<p>Apple weren&#8217;t much help; it&#8217;s not a &#8220;supported feature&#8221;. But, surely it should work? The iBook/PowerBook just becomes a fancy external drive. It must work? The guy suggested seeing a Mac Genius down in London. Perhaps I&#8217;ll do that next time I&#8217;m down there.</p>
<p>Think I&#8217;ll contact MediaFour/MacDrive about this again, see if they know more&#8230;</p>
<p class="updated">I never did visit a Mac Genius or contact MediaFour, but in the end I didn&#8217;t need to. The hack I&#8217;d found worked for the very few occasions that I needed to connect the mac like this. Please let me know if you find/found a solution, and I&#8217;ll update the page. Thanks.</p>
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		<title>iBook Logic board problem</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Jan 2005 15:20:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Julian</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I knew I shouldn&#8217;t haven&#8217;t talked about backups with Paul. I even knew about the iBook logic board issue. I just never checked my serial number to see if I&#8217;d suffer. Have you?

So, as if on cue, the next day, the nasty black fizzing lines appeared on the screen. It seemed to get worse as I [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span style="font-weight: normal;">I knew I shouldn&#8217;t haven&#8217;t talked about backups with <a href="http://donovansbrain.co.uk">Paul</a>. I even knew about the iBook <a href="http://www.apple.com/support/ibook/faq/">logic board issue</a>. I just never checked my serial number to see if I&#8217;d suffer. Have you?</span></p>
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<p>So, as if on cue, the next day, the nasty black fizzing lines appeared on the screen. It seemed to get worse as I tipped the screen back and forth. Ok, I&#8217;ll stop doing that. Too late, the screen died.</p>
<p>Checking on the XP machine, the iBook was still alive, and boots ok. I read some reports of some that haven&#8217;t been. So I start copying data across to the PC, before the machine gives out completely. I&#8217;m panicking now, and really don&#8217;t want to leave the machine on longer than I need to.</p>
<p>Copying stuff over wirelessly is too slow. Perhaps I can connect directly by ethernet (I have one of those ibooks that doesn&#8217;t need a crossover cable). Oh, but I can&#8217;t. I need to change the network settings, but I haven&#8217;t set up a remote login. Remind me to enable SSH next time.</p>
<p>So I have a cunning thought, what about target disk mode? I&#8217;d ask Paul, but oh dear, his iBook suffers from the same logic board problem 2 days later. Is this contagious? The PC at home doesn&#8217;t have a firewire card, so time to take the machine into work.</p>
<p>In work now; I install an evaluation of <a href="http://www.mediafour.com/products/macdrive6/">MacDrive</a>, as the PC won&#8217;t be able to understand HFS drives. Booting up with T held down (Target Disk Mode), I connect the two by firewire (IEEE1394/iLink). Woot &#8211; my work XP machine detects it, and I proceed to copy my data off.</p>
<p><em>(This reminds me, I must get an external drive with firewire &amp; USB for home. For backups for both my iBook and the PC. I&#8217;ll have to get a firewire card too for the home PC, or stick with USB. And buy MacDrive too. I know I could use FAT32, but seeing as I&#8217;ll probably be using the drive more on the iBook, I rather go with the most appropriate format. Even if I went for FAT32, I&#8217;d have to find a win98 disk (or something), that would allow me to format a drive to greater than 32Gb. XP won&#8217;t allow you to. It&#8217;ll quite happily let you read drives &gt;32Gb though.)</em></p>
<p>The copying goes well until, joy, the PC crashes. Rebooting, the PC no longer detects the iBook. Perhaps something&#8217;s trashed on the iBook drive. Damn. The ibook&#8217;s screen pings into life for one last chance. I quickly fire up DiskUtility and repair the disk. I forget to enable SSH. The PC still doesn&#8217;t see the iBook. Anyway, that&#8217;s it for now. It&#8217;s time to go home, the screen has died again so I can&#8217;t try a fsck, and in the morning (20 Jan 2005) Paul and I are taking our broken babies to CRC in Huntingdon for repair. They sounded pretty clued up on the phone.</p>
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